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  1. #1
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    Default Motoring Law : Useful info on tyres/HIDS/number plates etc...

    Laws regarding tyres protruding from the arches

    Link to full regs: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...8L0549:EN:HTML

    Council Directive 78/549/EEC of 12 June 1978 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the wheel guards of motor vehicles

    2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre.

    2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1;
    In short, the wheel must NOT protrude more than 30mm past the edge of the mudguard.

    It's also in the MOT regs

    (d) wheels, if there are no pointed or sharp features which projects beyond the external plane of the wheel rim, no wing nuts are fitted and there are no projections beyond the vehicle body plan form apart from tyres and wheel discs, (including central wheel securing nuts) if the latter have a radius of curvature of not less than 30mm and do not project by more than 30mm beyond the vehicle body plan form ;
    Thanks to PJ for this info.
    Last edited by PJ; 29-07-2011 at 12:37 AM.

  2. #2
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    Join Date
    May 2008
    Hayling Island
    Will Marrs

    Default Law regarding Jap Import number plates

    Possibly all you'll ever need to know about the legality of Jap Import vehicles and the requirements of your number plates..

    The Law

    The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks)(Amendment) Regulations 2002

    (Below, an extract from above link, please read above link for full detail)

    Size and spacing of characters: special cases
    14A. — (1) This regulation applies in relation to any vehicle imported into the United Kingdom which—
    (a)does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval; and
    (b)is so constructed that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration mark in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.
    (2) In relation to a vehicle to which this regulation applies—
    (a)each character in the registration mark must be 64 millimetres high;
    (b)the width of each character of the mark, other than the letter “I” and the figure “1”, must be 44 millimetres;
    (c)the width of every part of the stroke forming a character in a mark must be 10 millimetres;
    (d)the spacing between any two characters within a group must be 10 millimetres;
    (e)the vertical spacing between groups of characters must be 5 millimetres;
    (f)the width of a margin between the mark and the top and lateral sides of the registration plate must be not less than 5 millimetres;
    (g)the space between the bottom of the mark and the bottom of the registration plate must be not less than 13 millimetres; but, within that space, the space between the bottom of the mark and the top of the name and postcode of the person by whom the plate was supplied must be not less than 5 millimetres."

    I am satisfied my car meets the above regulations as an imported vechile - Where can I buy my plates from?

    Whilst it is possible that you may locate a walk-in store who will make you legal Jap Import number plates, eg : Some good auto factors.... However Halfords do not.

    Your best bet is to shop online, be forewarned that many online places will require from you - Either the V11 (tax renewal notice) , V5 (vehicle registration document) accompanied by some form of personnel ID , a recent utility bill will normally suffice. These will need to be the originals - NOT COPIES, you should post these only as recorded delivery. Documents are returned along with your order.

    Links (other online number plate providers exsist - howver the below two know the rules regarding Jap Imports, buy from them and your plates will be legal)



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    sources :
    UK Statute Law Database , Halfords , Craigsplates , DemonPlates

  3. #3
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    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Probably buying bit's for my GTR then shelving them

    Default The LAW regarding H.I.D's and your MOT

    In Summary - you're not allowed

    Heres the info from GTR.co.uk

    Quote Originally Posted by GTR.co.uk
    The latest directive from VOSA includes their view that unless strict criteria are met, after-market HID kits may not be legal.

    Here is the relevant text -

    "In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.
    The following is the legal rationale:
    The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
    Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.
    However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle).
    For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.
    Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:
    1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.
    2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).
    3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.
    In practice this means:
    1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.
    2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.
    3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.
    Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.
    In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above."

    If you are found to be using lights which don't comply, in all likelihood, you may be reported to the Procurator Fiscal and may end up with a fine.

    The above seems to be a precursor to the new MOT criteria slated to come into existance on New Years Eve 2011 (for 2012), this is from the MOT Testers VOSA bullitin explaining the new EU MOT regulations which were ratified this year, and includes amongst other things, the testing of wiring harnesses, the testing for illegal HID kits and, wait for it, chipped ECU's, whatever that means The article is quite long, but here is a small extract .....

    "As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.
    In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.
    Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations."
    Last edited by benGT; 16-12-2010 at 11:31 PM. Reason: corrected spammy's terrible grammar!



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